Highs And Lows Of Addiction,  Sobriety And Starting A Business || Peter
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Highs And Lows Of Addiction, Sobriety And Starting A Business || Peter

Real stories, told by real people.

It's good to be back with another edition of the Show. Hope you all are in good spirits. Today Peter joins us, and he's got a story to tell.

Peter comes from humble beginnings "I grew up off grid....like solar power house....my dad would haul water, and pump it up this huge hill." He would ride bikes, build mini bikes, wreck a few every now and then. It was an interesting childhood, but beautiful with two loving parents. Unfortunately, Peter would lose his mother to breast cancer. He was only 12 years old when his mother passed away. Struggling with grief, and losing his mother, he started acting out. Although, Peter would be the first to tell you that's no excuse for his actions.

Things would eventually escalate. From smoking weed, and stealing cars to meth and heroin addiction. Peter's life quickly stared to spiral out of control. His addiction took him down a dark path of selling dope, robbing, people over dosing around him, being on the streets, hustling for his next high and then hitting a wall - county jail. Peter's made some BIG changes in life since then. He's started an LLC, owning a business and pushing to hit six figures this year. Plus he's sober. I'd like to introduce another GIANT AMONGST US, and let Peter's story remind you, that it's never too late.

'Til next time

and very soon,

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hope you're in a good place I hope you're in a good headspace this is

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giants amongst us where we share in the unique human experience and where you're

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stories play I'd like you to let these stories remind you that you are in fact worth the effort

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that your life has meaning and that change can be had so with that being said pull up a chair

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kick your feet up do whatever it is you do as you let this play in the background and go about

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your day I have another conversation that I like to share with you I have another story that I'd

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like to introduce to you all from being raised off grid with two loving parents to losing his

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mother early on Peter joins us today and he's got a story to tell like he said during our talk

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as a young man there was a whole lot of debauchery crashing out and flipping cars over and at 18

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years old he was given $30 as an inheritance from a family member and there was a heroin

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addiction and on the streets with only $7 to his name county jail shelters rehab Peters felt

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the highs and he knows the lows but these days he's got a plan and a site set on hitting six

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figures with a new mindset attitude plus he's sober let's hear how we did it ladies and gentlemen

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without further ado this is Peter and his story ladies and gentlemen we're back with another one

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this is Giants amongst us where we share in that unique human experience and today I have Peter and

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he took time out of his day to sit down and have a conversation with this so appreciate it man thank

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you thank you for joining us hey no problem I appreciate you and I'm glad you could pull me

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on here to have a little chat yeah man you know let's just jump it off from starters and can you

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share with us you know where you come from and how it was for you growing up absolutely absolutely I

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think it's I think we should probably start with just really quick the how my parents came to meet

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and move up to the area that I was born in so my mother was born in the Aesir Islands right off well

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it's far off the coast of Portugal the middle of the Pacific and she was one of 17 children just crazy

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yeah yeah one of 17 kids and she was adopted by a well-off doctor her and all of all of the children

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right the parents right it's an impoverished area they one of my my grandfather was kicked in the

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head by a horse and couldn't take care of all the kids so all the kids got adopted by a well-off

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family in New York and and raised there and then my mom met my dad in Brentwood New York and moved

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to North Idaho in the late 80s and okay and started having kids my sister in 94 and then me in 97

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my brother in 2000 and started a family there so I grew up off grid solar powerhouse my dad would

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haul water and and pump it up this huge hill and it was like a gravity feed to the house and he's a

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carpenter so he built the house real cool setup you know but yeah yeah nobody was super well off

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financially you know we we had everything we needed but there was no no extra really you know

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did you guys have livestock too no livestock nope they weren't much of in the way of farmers

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you know he was still a city boy at heart that they were just living in the country you know so

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yeah I have good memories of that and it's interesting because I grew up with like a like a rotary phone

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right and my parents had a 16 millimeter projector that we would watch like Bugs Bunny from the 50s

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on you know but this is to to be fair this is the early 2000s this is like 2002 345 you know as I'm

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growing up and it worse you know and so we have the technology of like you know the 70s maybe 80s

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VHS tapes you know it was an interesting but it was a good upbringing man I wouldn't trade it for the

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world we were going outside we were playing we were riding bikes we were building mini bikes you

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know get a lawn mower out of the trash and get the engine off of it and put a centrifugal clutch on

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it and put it on this frame and make a little motorcycle you know mm-hmm well these things

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that you picked up watching your father or these are things you just trial and error you know you

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you picked up as you went oh this is definitely my dad my dad was uh was showing us all this stuff

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you know he's a mechanically minded guy and a contractor he was running a contracting business

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at that point building houses um so my little brother paid a lot more attention to the the

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fixing of the vehicles and he's a damn good mechanic now and I can wrench but I'm more of a

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you know I followed more of his contracting experience you know where it's uh I'm more I you

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know I've built some houses in the past and and and such things like that so I went a little bit

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more that route but that's right that's basically the upbringing is uh is you know not a lot of

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money but enough and loving parents right and then uh you know 60506 my mom got diagnosed with

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breast cancer and it was fairly advanced and she had a mastectomy but it uh the tumors came back

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um so she got radiation chemotherapy trying to um get that under control and she ended up getting

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radiation induced leukemia in that so that kind of sent that downhill to the point where she passed

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in uh in 08 and I never really dealt very good with that loss you know we didn't grieve as a family

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much we mostly just didn't talk about it and that's really not the right way to handle loss and

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I got to experience why that is you know and I wouldn't blame some of my wrongdoings on that in

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any way but I'd say that it was maybe a factor a little bit you know in of like repressed feelings

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as a young teen yeah you know because that's when I started really acting out as a kid you know

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how old were you exactly when when your mother passed away oh I was 12 yeah oh wow man I was 12

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12 and a half right in sixth grade right so she died on a Saturday I was in school on a Monday

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type thing you know what I mean yeah and uh and yeah it started it messed with me a little bit and

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for some reason I well maybe that and some other reasons but I started acting out I ended up uh

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I was smoking a lot of weed at that time you know all my friends were stoners and I thought it was

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real cool so smoking a lot of weed and hanging out with people who were you know we're all easily

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impressionable at that age and uh we ended up stealing a couple cars at 14 you know that year

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and a half a culminated in uh in a couple joyriding incidents stealing cars go you know race them around

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and uh and smash them into things and then burn them was was the the goal I guess and uh and that

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turned out to be um some charges right like we got caught because we were telling all our friends

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hey look how cool we are we stole a bunch of cars and it's a small town oh man it's a it was a town

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of 3 000 people oh okay yeah everybody knows everybody yeah oh yeah yep so we got in trouble

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and I had to go to juvie for gosh maybe a month or so and uh pay a bunch of restitution but I think

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my parents ended up paying because I don't remember getting a job and working for I think my parents

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just paid the restitution for me because I don't remember paying it honestly but uh that was the

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beginning of of problems right that was pretty much the rest of high school was drinking a little

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too much smoking a bunch of weed and generally being an asshole I thought I was ken block I've

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wrecked so many cars just because I you know I want to drift them around and stuff and so gosh

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man my dad had built a it was a 1980 Mercedes Benz 240d with a 289 out of a Ford Falcon that he

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had placed in there and uh with a with a 700 r4 or uh I forget what tranny he had in it no it wasn't

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it was a turbo 400 maybe anyway um I so I flipped that thing on its roof man destroyed it yeah really

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sad all these all these wreckages did you ever end up in a hospital oh only for minor things nope

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nope I flipped that thing over with five people in it and uh two of my buddies landed on their feet

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because they weren't wearing no seatbelt you know like a cat yeah like a cat yeah they spun and

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landed on their feet and I always remember just being amazed we flipped that thing back over by hand

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just because we had five of us we were all pretty strong rolled it back over drove it back to school

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just all smashed up and smoking yeah yeah yeah not good not good I mean I yeah I put a couple I

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put a everybody walked away from it oh yeah yep we all walked away yeah no one ever got real hurt

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we put a Subaru into a swamp um I smashed a car into the back of my school in my junior year

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you know those big great uh concrete barristers um yeah uh huh yeah yeah I smacked a car sideways

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into one of them right behind the school I got in trouble for that one was it just you in the car

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you had some some friends with you no we were five deep again it was always when there's a bunch of

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people there you're trying to show off you know yeah right doing doing the most oh gosh so it was

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so that was that was high school it's just just a carnage of vehicles and you know I've always been

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an intellectual guy I've been fairly intelligent you know so I never I would look at the classroom

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brick and see look man it's 80 test and quizzes it's 20% like day work you know so I would never

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do anything in those classes I would just screw off and bug people and throw things around the room

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and just be a dick and then when it comes time to do the test I would just do the test because all

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the tests are easy you know and I would get like a B on it and so I passed the class with a C

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and I never did anything it wasn't good man uh yeah I you know I was a little out of control

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and that just kept going after I graduated right what was it it was my my graduation day

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we I was super high on subutech which is a it's like a way that people get off of heroin I don't

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know if you've ever heard of it well say that again what is it it's called subutech it's like

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when there's so that when somebody's weaning off a heroin that's what they they put them on yeah

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yep yep 54 411s they're like big white or they were a big white round pills and they're really

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strong man honestly it's uh it may be good if you're coming off a heroin but for an average

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school school child this is not a good thing to to snort or to eat and uh so yeah I remember using

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that for graduation and just being blasted out on that and that was kind of the beginning of

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the end I made more friends that were into harder drugs and started spending time with those people

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and then that's when stuff really started going downhill for me when you were when you were riding

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around and just crashing burning everywhere was your was your father ever you know did he ever

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get wind of it or did he know what was going on or a lot of that stuff was just going outside of

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you know the scope of him able to you know have a good idea of what's really going on with um with

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you and your extracurricular activities well he he definitely knew and I think that he did his best to

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try to steer me back towards you know being a normal person I remember one day when I put

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the super line a little bit oh yeah yeah I remember he uh when I put the Subaru in the swamp

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and we had pulled it out with another truck and just destroyed the side of it raking up on a tree

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I we had it trailered back to the house and and he was mad he's like well if you're gonna beat this

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car that I gave to you I'm gonna beat it too I paid for it you know and so he gets behind the wheel

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and just starts rallying this little car around the house jumping it down this embankment like

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just going crazy with it you know uh yeah I would so I'll never forget it it was a funny experience

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you know yeah just and I tried to hide some stuff like I had taken the the rear brake calipers it was

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a four-wheel disc brake on the on the bends that I had flipped before I flipped it I had taken the

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rear brake calipers off and hung them with baling wire from the strut towers so that I could power

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brake the car like I'd push the brakes and only the front brakes would go so then I could stop the

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gas and do big burnouts you know and and I had to change it back before he noticed so early one

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morning I got up and got out there and started fucking around with it and then when he got up I

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was like oh man I was just trying to check my brakes and you know I messed up you give me a hand

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and help me put them back together you know so I was I was sneaky you know right right yeah because

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that's a whole lot of that's a whole lot of action you know to go unnoticed especially if you're

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like you said in a town where everybody knows everybody word gets around quick oh man it really

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does and so and so that was that was that part there and then after I graduated what happened oh

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yeah so the the rich family right that uh that adopted my mother that was my uncle we called

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him uncle George uncle George and uh I don't know why we call him uncle but that's just what we call

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him and uh he left college fund money to all of the kids right like all his grandchildren quote

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unquote because the dude was loaded so there's a lot of kids but every kid got like 30 grand in a 529

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plan and uh yeah when I turned 18 they just gave me the keys to that and they're like here here's

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30 grand go to college and I was like well all right best I'm gonna go rent a house and go buy

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some dope and get another get a new motorcycle and uh and go cause hell you know go raise hell

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30 grand 18 years old and bam here you are you got 30 grand have at it yep and so that was that was

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there live in a life well for a little for a little bit you know it goes by fast but for a kid you

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know that has especially that came from you know close to poverty line 30 g's was a lot of money

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you know oh yeah and so that's what that went to it was uh I moved to Moscow Idaho which is a

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college town and uh and we rented a little spot all I remember is getting real drunk I think me

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and a buddy killed like a box of wine and some uh some whiskey years I remember stealing someone's

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American flag from their like uh their their front porch because they had like it had fell over and I

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was like uh how uh unpatriotic to leave it on the ground and so I remember just taking it and carrying

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it around and it was huge like 10 feet tall you know the guy's playing walking down the streets of

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Moscow just hammered drunk yeah there was there was a lot of debauchery that went on and and I was

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kind of enabled with that money you know yeah especially if it's not you know coming from where

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you're coming from you know it's like one thing say if you work for you work for it and then you

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earn it but just a half 30 grand dropped on your lap and here you go you know this is what you need

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to do with it but when it comes in that shape in that form and in a way handed to you that's a that's

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a recipe for disaster it absolutely was it absolutely was and that's that's really where it

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starts to get more ugly is that uh I had a good buddy right is my buddy Davis and me and him were tight

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and his sister was a bit wild and she had a ex-boyfriend that they she was running around with

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and he had gone to prison and he was just getting out of prison and I happened to be hanging out

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with Davis when the ex-boyfriend gets back out of prison and uh and he was the type of dude that

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just hustled you know what I mean he was like one one of those guys that didn't really want to get a

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job and so he started selling heroin for to make money you know and I'll never forget going over

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to there they had like a little mobile home out in the sticks kind of in a rural area and we went

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over there just to hang out with Andrea the the sister you know and I remember that dude came out

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and he's like hey you guys got to try this you know because we smoke weed and stuff and do we

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were doing a bunch of dabs this one dabs were cool you know and uh and he's like you guys got to try

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this and he had some heroin on tinfoil and uh he's like here this is free like try it out

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you know because looking back I realized why it was free for a day or two is because how do you

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you know you get clients for your your heroin business yeah get some people hooked right

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and that's what it was dude and so we we smoked that and it kind of just made you feel real weird

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and then uh he had a bunch of meth and he's like here try this try this pass the meth pipe around

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and I don't know if you've ever done meth but the first time you do it it's like it's crazy

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it just makes you feel so late it you know you feel like you're on top of the world you know

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Superman hey man you put the cape on now no one no one can yeah like you said exactly it feels like

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you're on top of the world and um there's really no nobody that can step step on your show or tell

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you this or tell you that you know your confidence is sky high yeah absolutely I remember doing pushups

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and playing Mortal Kombat that was what it was it was just banging push-ups out just they have

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been having fun yep yep banging out push-ups and playing Mortal Kombat and uh and that was the

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beginning of a problem a big problem in my life because that stuff's expensive you know what I mean

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um and so that was the deal is that I quickly realized that I like this and I need to do it

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more I guess you know and I quickly got hooked especially on the heroin for some reason and

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the meth is cool and I would use meth to to wake myself back up or um if I didn't have heroin and

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I was coming down I would smoke meth until I could get some more heroin basically but I used meth

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as more of a crutch and the heroin was more of my addiction um even though when I was high I was

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useless like I just wanted to sleep which is so counterintuitive really right don't make it sense

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but that was the truth of it is that it's it's just the addictive property of the drug unless

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you know the symptoms of what the drug does for you it's more you know just your addiction to it

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it gets horrible that's what started is I started selling dope because I could get it from him for

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a lesser price than I could sell it for up in my hometown so we rented a house up in uh up in

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Voluntary Spheria Idaho and I started selling dope I started buying like well with heroin you don't

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measure in ounces you measure in pieces and so a piece is 24 grams instead of 28 to an ounce

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and so I would buy half pieces which were 12 ounces and uh and bring it up to bonners and I'd cut it

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with uh instant coffee and vinegar you know which is crazy but that's what I did was Folgers

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Folgers instant coffee and white vinegar and to this day the smell of instant coffee or vinegar

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reminds you that oh dude it sends me back yeah but I would chop it up and break it down like 20

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percent maybe did you get that for net for anybody that that cutting tip or you just figured out you

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know what let me try to see if this works I think it might it might be a good mix and match

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no that's what that's what homeboy did that's what the dude that was telling me right you know

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so I would get it pure from him and then just aggressively cut it and for some reason people

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liked it um mostly it was smokers though I think people did shoot it up and didn't complain too much

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but you that just goes to show what you're actually putting in your body man you have no idea yeah

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you know it's horrible horrible but yeah that that was my lick was I would get it and bring it up

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and then sell for 30 bucks we up yeah oh stomp on it yep and then sell it for top dollar 300 bucks

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a gram which is ridiculous and uh but I was the only in town okay so supply and demand I was that

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was all you yeah yeah I would have made a lot of money but I had a horrible habit and it was out of

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out of control and so I really didn't make any money and I barely paid for the habit you know

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when you were at your um I wouldn't say lowest but I guess your most active usage of the heroin

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how much how much you think you were using a day uh at the worst point I was probably smoking like

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maybe a gram a day but that didn't last that long most you know between a half gram and a

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gram a day something like that how about um at that time how much of your your 30 grand did you

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have was that pretty much blown no I had probably you know maybe 30 left something like that oh you

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were parting hard huh yeah enough that I was trying to make it last longer by selling and trying to

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make something happen with it it was disappearing fast you know and uh at that at that point I got

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robbed by some kids who knew what I had going on and uh and got me at the right time I had gone to

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jail I got picked up on a uh some some warrant for something and spent a little bit of time in jail

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and when I got out the house had got door kicked in you know people had taken what they wanted

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dang and that set me back it was kind of the end of my selling career there it really was because

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I I moved there soon after that and went went back down to to Coeur d'Alene which is a larger

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metropolitan area south of us you know and bounced around through a few different houses

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with uh a girlfriend at the time that I had had some friends who needed a roommate whatever and

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oh I did that for a bit I ended up robbing the person that owned the house and that's

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what's crazy is that when you start using drugs and now you don't have money and you but you need

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to fulfill your habit it's almost like your brain tells you that you have to have it like you're

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gonna die if you don't get the drugs right and that's what it ended up being was that by any means I

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was gonna get dope and that's what it turned into is that I just started selling shit in the house

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like I just grabbed this chick's ps4 back in the day when a ps4 was nice and go pawn it and then I

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pawned like all of her like weed eaters and chainsaws and like like surround sound I just unhooked

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the surround sound from the living room and went and pawned it for dope everything like you know

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it's crazy uh huh were you going to the same pawn shop because I know sometimes they get your

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information you know they take I don't know how it is over there but they'll take a photo of you

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then when you start coming once or twice you're like what's really going on over here yeah yeah I

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went to the same one and I did get caught for uh for a hoverboard that I had pawned or something

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but the hoverboard they yeah yeah is there such a thing well uh they call them hoverboards they're

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like um what are those they're the wheels with a gyroscope that you like a like a one wheel you know

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okay all right right uh huh yeah they call them hoverboards but yeah I got caught but the it was

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my girlfriend's friend and she must have talked her into not pressing charges you know what I mean

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sometimes you know there are people that they know the ones to go to like they'd rather get it for

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cheap they're gonna get whatever they need to get off of you for pennies on the dollar and um you

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know other ones they kind of enforce the rules a little bit and they start asking information and

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they're seeing you one day one day out the week then two days out the week in three days you

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yeah it starts to raise some red flags what's what's going on over here yeah yeah but that's

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that's basically it is that I was just robbing people blind um unfortunately and and that that

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pull towards the drug is so heavy like I had a good buddy right and he was my girlfriend's brother

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right and we live with him too he was lived in the house too and one day we got some real good dope

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and uh and he slammed it I see I never really used needles I would smoke the shit but he slammed it

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like with the needle and uh one day I go in his room and the dude is crunched over on his bed and

00:27:38
his face is real blue and like purple looking and I start I shook him to see if he's okay and he just

00:27:44
falls on the ground and so I start freaking out and I call my girl I'm like Cheyenne get in here

00:27:51
and she came in and sure enough I mean this dude is he's dying in front of us you know and his face

00:27:56
was going literally blue like the color of a blue shirt or something like it's when you see it you

00:28:02
know he's a white boy and his face was blue like he's getting no oxygen and she is a bigger girl she

00:28:08
was she's pretty tough and she got on top of him and started giving him CPR and just just pumping his

00:28:13
chest you know and to give you an idea of where your mind is when you're a drug addict I stepped

00:28:20
over the dude and grabbed his dope off the counter while he's dying on the floor and my girl's trying

00:28:25
to save her brother's life right step over him grab that dope stick it in your pocket and then I

00:28:31
called 911 like that's gives you an idea of the pull of that and uh the cop showed up the fire

00:28:40
department they gnar canned him quick you know stick him with the needle like an epi pen and brought

00:28:46
the dude back but just barely you know they said if she hadn't of been pumping on him like that his

00:28:53
he would have been brain dead um she was still able to give oxygen to his uh get oxygen to his brain

00:29:00
during that time then uh yeah it's like artificially pumping the heart with your hands right right with

00:29:07
that force that makes the blood go through the brain and bring oxygenated blood to the brain

00:29:12
just enough that will keep you alive yeah yeah so very close to death and that's one of two overdoses

00:29:20
that I've been a part of really if you fast forward a year or so you know same stuff happening in

00:29:27
that year just general debauchery that a girl had overdosed in this little mobile home behind my uh

00:29:33
behind Cheyenne's house behind the same girlfriend and she was going blue they were trying to stuff

00:29:39
a dope pipe in her mouth and light it and tell her to suck on it but she was out like there was I

00:29:44
remember a big dude was holding her from behind and I was slapping her in the face like hard I

00:29:49
never hit a woman in my life except that time and I was smacking this girl like hard hard as I could

00:29:55
you know and it wasn't doing anything you know it was just beating her up for no reason but we

00:30:00
were trying you know and somebody ended up coming out with a probably like an 80 shot of meth right

00:30:07
like a fat shot of meth and found a vein and fucking blasted her with it and uh you've never seen

00:30:13
someone wake up so fast that saved her life as crazy as it is um she was dying right in in the

00:30:20
dude's arms and this shot of dope and her eyes just fly open and I mean she was real fucked up for

00:30:27
about a day but she lived you know was she slamming it or did she did she smoke it when that happened

00:30:35
yeah shouldn't she had someone make a shot up for her of of heroin um but it was probably only like

00:30:41
a point right so like point one of a gram right um but it's that was too much you know that was too

00:30:49
much and that's how quick it is and of all the years that you were using it you never had any

00:30:55
close calls like that with yourself in the high no no no uh smoking it was it's a I mean it's a

00:31:02
lot safer nowadays right with fentanyl though you're you're still trading a line and you can

00:31:09
od on fentanyl by smoking it and there was fentanyl around when I was using but I never liked it

00:31:16
and it's a little slightly different higher than heroin and uh it wasn't nearly as prevalent

00:31:21
you know seven or so years ago it seems like nowadays I mean I'm you know I'm far away from the

00:31:27
scene now but I mean it seems like nowadays if you're using and you're you know because sometimes

00:31:34
the connect isn't there and you're getting it through people you don't really know so just

00:31:37
as long as they have it you're gonna go ahead and you're gonna get it from them and it's a it's a

00:31:41
crap shot because it seems like nowadays damn near everything has fentanyl on it yeah it's super sad

00:31:50
dude and uh no yeah when I when I got out it hadn't really fully hit yet thank goodness you know but

00:31:58
no I never was compelled to use a needle and always was just happy smoking it but that's it's

00:32:04
still destroyed my life you know like the the lowest point of that arc is probably when I lost my car

00:32:12
I lost you know the respect of my family yeah I had burned every bridge that I possibly could burn

00:32:19
I had asked my aunties for money and didn't pay them back my dad my brother you know everyone in

00:32:26
my every avenue of getting money was dried up for me at least in my mind you know of easily

00:32:35
getting loans and this and that I'd burnt through the college fund at this point for a while and

00:32:41
now I was homeless right I wasn't welcome at my parents house and I wasn't welcome anywhere else

00:32:46
because I was a a thieving junkie right right that only cared about getting high and was really good

00:32:54
for nothing and no one wants you around when you're just gonna rob them and then fall asleep on their

00:32:58
couch yeah so I was homeless and I ended up in quarter lane Idaho and it was gorgeous dude it was

00:33:06
this time of year it was this time of year probably I don't know 2018 maybe 2017 or 2018 something like

00:33:14
that and it was gorgeous spring springtime and I'm I have seven bucks in my pocket and no drugs and

00:33:22
I'm coming down bad and just seven bucks to your name seven bucks to my name yep I have a five

00:33:28
and two ones in the back pocket I'm smoking halfies out of ash trays and and this time you

00:33:37
like um like you mentioned this is when you're out in the street you have really nowhere to stay so

00:33:42
it's it's you yourself seven bucks in your pocket yep yep I had a a little a little tent that I strapped

00:33:50
on my back with a sleeping bag a vagabond yeah yeah yep the handkerchief and the stick man yep I was

00:33:59
hold on it huh oh down bad I had a bush that I would sleep in up on tubs hill in quarter lane

00:34:05
yeah it was my brush right up until that point how many years were you already um using and and living

00:34:12
that life you know of just reckless abandonment that was that was the third year it goes fit it goes

00:34:18
fast so you were going hard for three years yeah yeah well well the whole full throttle was the whole

00:34:25
arc is four years the third year yep is when I when I really got crashed out yeah oh yeah and so

00:34:34
so that was my lowest point man is that no money for food I would go to the homeless shelter and uh

00:34:41
and every day you'd have to go at like five o'clock in the morning and to like to get a head count

00:34:47
to see if you can get a bed you know but there was so many homeless that you you probably weren't

00:34:54
gonna make it you know what I mean but every morning I would go and I would sit out there with

00:34:58
these people that are just you know they're down bad they're rough homeless people you know

00:35:04
and I'd sit out there with them as a kid I'm 21 years old and still look kind of fresh you know

00:35:11
but but a little clap back and trying to get a shelter you know what I mean I'm like food and uh

00:35:19
gosh it's it's a humbling experience it really is it really is and uh I was able to to pull myself

00:35:27
out of that but only by by getting arrested dude was was what what it took getting arrested so how um

00:35:37
when when you were trying to get your bed and everything like that were you going through

00:35:40
how was your body reacting to it all were you getting dope sick were you fighting it well

00:35:45
was it more mental was it physical what were you dealing with oh I was definitely dope sick I would

00:35:51
I would still I was still using drugs but only when I could find them you know like um I had a buddy

00:35:58
who was working part-time on a construction site and noticed there was some you know there's some

00:36:04
things of value there so at night we went and uh grabbed these paddle boards and and held them on

00:36:11
top of his car as we drove away and sold them on craigslist just ballsy you know and got a couple

00:36:18
bucks you go get some dope like so it was a hit and miss lifestyle there where you were going

00:36:23
through some dry spouts then and hurting when you were oh yeah and it's uh and coming down off of

00:36:29
heroin is not it's not a fun time man how does that how does that um can can you kind of like

00:36:35
a little overview of what you're going through when you are dope sick because you you hear you

00:36:40
know I mean I've never done heroin I've done a lot of the things but I've never did heroin so I've

00:36:44
never had to deal with that but I hear it's hell and how do you feel about as far as addiction do you

00:36:51
see it as a learned behavior or do you do you see it as a like what a lot of people call it now and

00:37:00
some people refer to it as a as a disease well um to answer the first part I feel like it basically

00:37:08
it's uh you start to feel real off um very uncomfortable at first when you're coming down

00:37:16
and then I notice myself sweating more and I get real irritable and uh and then you get what's

00:37:23
called restless leg syndrome which is or at least I did which is where the leg muscles are constantly

00:37:29
firing like they're twitching and they hurt badly and there's nothing you can do to make them not

00:37:35
ache and you can try to you know work out or but you wouldn't work out because you're a heroin addict

00:37:42
but you could try to get some stress or like you know move them around but your legs just it feels

00:37:47
like you want to cut them off is how it feels I can't quite explain it better than that but

00:37:52
you and then you just feel I would get cold uh cold shakes and shivers but I'm sweating kind of

00:37:59
like a fever and that would persist four days on end um but you wouldn't let yourself ever really

00:38:06
get to that point you would go rob someone or do something man to get dope like one way or the other

00:38:13
rather than go you would get that yeah yeah and that's what the mind tells you is that this is

00:38:20
unacceptable and you have to get drugs right now there's no other you know and um that's what you

00:38:26
do you'd go do horrible things to get dope there was I only had like a very short list of things

00:38:33
that I wouldn't do and you could imagine what they were and every other thing was on the table you

00:38:38
know right yeah yeah and you have some people that really they they go to that extreme where I think

00:38:44
you're talking about you know just to get away from what the body is going to go through to to sit

00:38:50
and go through that hell oh yeah you gotta sit through that and deal with that yeah yeah but

00:38:57
that's what it was is that I was just I was done with the way my life was and I had to you gotta

00:39:03
arrest it you know yeah yeah but but leading up to being arrested I was exhausted you know

00:39:11
of the situation and I couldn't quite stand what I had become you know reflecting yeah but I kept

00:39:18
using drugs and I finally got arrested for smashing a guy's windows out it was over a girl she liked

00:39:28
to see guys fight you know what I mean and wanted to cause problems and so long story short I busted

00:39:34
this dudes windows out and and got a felony charge for it and a warrant and so they picked me up in

00:39:41
in Spokane County for this this felony and I did the I did a big rotation of county jails

00:39:49
you spoke in county but Newport Spokane, Cortalain, Sam Point all the way up to Bonners Ferry to

00:39:55
face charges and I ended up spending about four months in in county jail and that's where I finally

00:40:04
began to you know understand that I had a massive problem because I sobered up in jail and it sucked

00:40:11
but it was necessary you know yeah and I started to to see that I had a major problem and I need

00:40:18
to get my crap together you know and so that really that was really a blessing was to get locked up

00:40:24
and I got in decent shape I was you know doing exercises with the guys in jail and doing the

00:40:30
prison workout whatever type thing yeah burpees and everything huh yeah oh yeah yeah and I got out

00:40:36
and I thought I was like all right you know what I got this I just won't do heroin no more I'll start

00:40:42
I'll just drink and smoke weed you know and that lasted for a few months then I got another girlfriend

00:40:48
that wanted to you know smoke heroin and uh and two drugs and and I ended up using with her

00:40:56
and then split off because she was nuts you know and that was finally the time it was January

00:41:03
or he's not I'm sorry is July 1st 2019 was the day that I said you know what I'm done with everything

00:41:11
and I can't drink I can't smoke weed I can't do drugs I'm done like you had mentioned you were

00:41:19
already fed up with it and um you kind of picked up the fling for a little bit but once this girl

00:41:26
was out of your life again it was back to where you you were sitting you it seems like you were

00:41:31
already at that crossroad and feeling like you know this is there's no future in this you know

00:41:36
look what I've become and and it's about time to just start making some some changes in an effort

00:41:42
to take this in a different direction absolutely dude I mean you would look around you and you'd

00:41:47
see I mean I remember clearly watching a guy try to fix a box fan while it's still running

00:41:54
you know and he's he's like like hitting his fingers on the fan and wow wow it's like you know

00:42:00
that's what you're dealing with these people are I remember tuning chainsaws inside an apartment

00:42:05
complex at three o'clock in the morning and you ever tuned a chainsaw you you got to hold it full

00:42:10
wide open throttle well and then you play with you play with the carburetor and get it to to really

00:42:16
scream and then you bring it down just a touch and we're doing that in the apartment complex

00:42:20
in the middle of the night like crazy things you know so I had to get away from that and be a normal

00:42:26
person you know because yeah so it was a combination of all of that or was it like your self worth it

00:42:34
was um the probably you know reflecting on all the relationships you burn all the people you did

00:42:41
wrong and then just a wasted life it was it a combination of everything that that kind of

00:42:46
sets you you know on a different path and wanting to clean up oh yeah my my my self worth for sure

00:42:54
and just looking around me and seeing the sort of person that I was surrounding myself with

00:42:59
right where they were in life and then I got real serious about what I want out of life and

00:43:05
saw that those two things were the direct antithesis of each other you know the fact that I need to

00:43:12
change that or this is where I'm headed I'm going to be you know this guy who's an absolute loser

00:43:17
you know I got a change and so that's what I ended up doing so I I jumped into the rooms of of a a

00:43:25
and n a and um I can't say that I agree with every part of the program I I don't I don't agree with

00:43:33
all of it but there are parts that I do and really the people in the program helped me to be accountable

00:43:41
right and and show me the way to do it and whether or not I love every idea that they have

00:43:49
it doesn't matter what matters is is that we have something in common and we're here to not use drugs

00:43:56
and not drink and I can get behind that you know and so I do my program different than other people

00:44:01
I never worked the steps I don't believe I'm powerless there's plenty of things that I don't

00:44:07
agree with but I do agree that at that point in time I had a problem and I need to be cognizant of

00:44:14
that and uh and be able to you know overcome these issues and to go on and not be an asshole and a

00:44:21
drug addict you know and yeah and I think so it's super helpful man um yeah a a and n a was a big

00:44:28
part of me achieving sobriety and continuing sobriety I like that you said that I don't believe

00:44:35
that I'm powerless because a lot of people when you start telling them that it's a I'm I don't know

00:44:42
where you stand on that but when you when you start telling them it's a disease and that once an

00:44:47
addict always an addict I mean you're already taking the power from them like but you if you put

00:44:52
yourself in that situation and you you created that lifestyle then you also have the power to

00:45:00
get yourself out of it that's absolutely right man that's really is the thing um is that well

00:45:08
the wise old guy once told me what did he say he said every thought is a prayer and every word is a

00:45:16
spell and that's a true thing and when you start talking about yourself negatively like that it

00:45:23
doesn't do no good at all it doesn't do any good it depends on your ideas of theology and

00:45:29
and your specific beliefs maybe but if you think about it like this a a and n a work in almost what

00:45:36
165 different countries and you you can you imagine the amount of different theologies monotheism

00:45:43
polytheism in all these different places yet somehow the program still works for thousands and

00:45:49
thousands upon thousands of people and how is that possible well it's the power of faith the power of

00:45:55
belief is massively powerful yeah and you know man you said it and then there's also the the whole

00:46:03
study behind the placebo effect too and then that also is like you're putting faith and trust in

00:46:09
something and now if you're putting that faith and trust in yourself and that you can start rewiring

00:46:15
your brain and start creating different experiences by the way that you think by the way that you act

00:46:22
by the way that you behave and now you're the one in control you're the one in in power and then you

00:46:28
you know you're taking the wheel back and then now you're steering it in a in a better direction

00:46:33
and I like that you said that even though you didn't agree with everything you were still taking

00:46:39
from it what you felt was applicable in your life and that was the you know the the camaraderie

00:46:45
or the network that you have in the community of people that were still trying to do things

00:46:50
in a sober way and you know you had that in common and that's where you were able to build from it's

00:46:56
not it's not that you have to believe in everything wholeheartedly but you were taking what you felt

00:47:01
would be useful for you and it worked absolutely absolutely I mean it's and that's a constantly

00:47:07
evolving thing is my belief systems you know and I try to keep that that way for a reason it seems

00:47:14
like something that I'll develop over even you know decades in the future as well like so basically

00:47:21
that's how I can see it of it at this point is that if there is a higher power and I imagine

00:47:27
there would be it's part of me you know and and I'm capable of great things good things and

00:47:34
horrible and evil things you know I like to think that I'm you know all of those things together and

00:47:40
it it depends on what I decide to do with it you know I think I think I have more power than I

00:47:46
get myself credit for you know and whether or not that's endowed by someone else is beside the

00:47:52
point but my point is is that yes a good conception of that helped me to get sober and then what really

00:47:58
is the key dude is uh is having goals is having a plan you know I see I see guys that I got sober

00:48:06
with and they made it a few years and they're drunk again you know one of my good buddies the

00:48:12
dude that I sold dope with at that the house that I got robbed in back in the day he just called me

00:48:17
the other day for the first time in five years and uh and he is off his rocker he's ram he thinks

00:48:23
he's Enoch from the bible and that he thinks yeah yeah he thinks that he has the responsibilities

00:48:29
of Noah and he has to build an arc in the next 40 days because the world's ending like he's he is

00:48:35
insane he's gone and he's never coming back the dude has fried himself that's what you're dealing

00:48:42
with and that's why it's so important to you know stay sober man and to get a goal like my goal is

00:48:49
success and um you know financial physical mental emotional success like I want to win and that's

00:48:57
what I've ingrained myself with and it's kept me sober and in good health and uh and that's

00:49:03
that's the key is a goal that's right something to shoot for how was it once you felt like you

00:49:10
really were being honest with yourself and committed to to um changing and cleaning up how was it like

00:49:17
your first few months did it did it seem like every day you were aching for it or little by

00:49:23
little gradually you know it was becoming a thing of the past and you were just working like you said

00:49:28
towards something more favorable towards success towards goals that you had it was it was tough

00:49:33
at first man um from the time I got out of jail to the bad relationship that I had when I started

00:49:38
using again that was about five month window that I was you know real real confident and sure of

00:49:45
myself but I I kept I would think about using because I had a lot of downtime now you because

00:49:51
you're you're go go go 24 seven when you're an addict because you're trying to get money to get dope

00:49:58
trying to get that dope yeah yeah and then get well and then 24 hours isn't it oh dude it's constant

00:50:05
you know and so it's something to focus on and now that gets taken away and it gets replaced with

00:50:11
maybe a nine to five or something like that but what about when you get off of work your mind's

00:50:17
going you're like gosh what am I doing like where you know and so suddenly you have no aim and so

00:50:23
that is what really ratcheted me back towards bad relationships bad people and doing bad things you

00:50:30
know and so I see that and I had to change my ways you know so I picked up um exercise which

00:50:37
I've really been hitting a lot recently but not so much for the past couple years but and then uh

00:50:42
then concrete goals like like we're trying to build wealth and that is a it's a tall order from a kid

00:50:50
with humble backgrounds and then you know felonies and uh and drug charges and whatnot on the record

00:50:57
you know it's it's it's a tall order and it's possible but it takes work and that's that work

00:51:02
is what has kept me sober and you move down like you're doing things on your own terms like after

00:51:08
you you cleaned up and you started to move in in that direction where you had goals and you were

00:51:13
planning to build wealth and build um success and build something that you can be proud of you know

00:51:18
build your your castle or your empire and now you're you're running your own show aren't you yeah

00:51:24
yeah that's and that's how it went I fresh out of jail my dad was there for me um when no one

00:51:29
else was you know and he's always been in my corner he really has and on the way back from jail

00:51:35
um within 30 minutes of me getting out he had me a job you know at a tree farm and so I worked on

00:51:40
that tree farm for a while hard work you know um but but I made some money and then moved out of my

00:51:46
dad's place he let me head let me stay there um got a little apartment and uh and got a better job

00:51:52
right at a property management company and we sub contracted for a landscape company and then I

00:51:58
worked my way up through the ranks at that company ended up being a foreman for them running you know

00:52:03
150 dollar landscapes running the jobs and had a crew under me yeah I experienced that

00:52:10
before that well no not with the landscape and no I have a wealth yeah yeah I've always been

00:52:16
involved in in carpentry like my dad was a carpenter and I would go on the job site with him

00:52:21
and so I learned how to bang nails but no I just uh I just picked it up quick so within

00:52:27
three years I was running crews for landscaping you know and then that was the year that I said

00:52:33
you know what I can do this myself and it's really that simple is you just start an LLC and you print

00:52:39
up some you know what you do is the door hangers right physical marketing and then I just went out

00:52:45
and started hitting subdivisions and I'd pull up in a car get out and just go up to random houses and

00:52:51
clip on my flyer onto their doorknob you know were you doing it solo bolo in the beginning

00:52:58
like when you first started out and figured like I'm gonna just I'm gonna go ahead and

00:53:01
branch out and do my own thing or did you have like a partner or two that that were helping you out

00:53:05
well solo for sure solo solo dolo and I still am it's my second year I'm still owner operator but

00:53:12
I'm trying this is the year where I scale and I at least hire a guy um but I skipped a tiny bit

00:53:19
ahead between the time when I was working at that landscape company I built a tiny house

00:53:24
um in my free time so a little tiny guy yeah yeah it was 12 by 16 cool little uh just one like a

00:53:34
studio barely big enough for a bathroom a little kitchenette and and a studio you know bed area

00:53:41
super cool though and how long did that take you oh that took about 400 man hours a couple months

00:53:48
after work you know like three or four months I mean that's something that you can just afterwards

00:53:54
you know you sit back and admire like this is all me oh yeah yeah it was tough dude the the

00:54:02
electrical and the plumbing was something that I spent a lot of time uh YouTubing because I I

00:54:07
ain't an electrician and I ain't a plumber but uh the rest of it fairly straightforward you know

00:54:13
but I did every facet of it like from drywall to to install in the tub pan to you know vinyl

00:54:20
flooring to the paint to the trim to you know all of it that's impressive man that's impressive yeah

00:54:28
yeah so I banged that out sold that bought an excavator and then I started the business so I

00:54:32
did leave that part out I yeah I got some some tooling you know yeah that's putting blood because

00:54:39
nothing comes easy from nothing comes nothing I mean you put the work in you put the time in and

00:54:44
you leveled up but you could you know you had a million million excuses you could have you could

00:54:50
have used this or use that like why it won't work why it can't work and look at me I'm just a

00:54:55
you know from the felonies and things like that like this is things that are on my record and I

00:54:59
can't get a regular job well if you can't get a regular job then you just create a job yeah yeah

00:55:06
that's it dude and you know what it is is uh quantum physics really if you really want to level

00:55:11
your life up quantum physics is the it was the answer for me and it's uh there's a good book

00:55:20
becoming supernatural by dr. Joe Dipanenza uh he's bad yeah yeah wait wait Joe uh is it Joe Dipa

00:55:28
or Joe dispensa yeah yeah yeah that might be it that might be it he does a lot of like neuro neuroscience

00:55:36
a lot of neuroscience talk too right yeah yep and that book really helped me obviously like

00:55:42
think and grow rich napoleon hill u squared price pritchard um there's a there's there's some good

00:55:48
books like that really just the power of your mind right yeah that's how I built my business was just uh

00:55:56
you're feeling grateful for things that I don't have yet is really the key and it's it's that

00:56:02
emotional charge that creates all things like uh you know and that's where you really get deep

00:56:08
into philosophy so we don't have to really go too far in the weeds but it's helped me a lot um and

00:56:14
yeah I banged that tiny house out sold it bought an excavator I had I was hauling it man in this

00:56:19
little lawnmower trailer that I ended up breaking in half because of the weight of the excavator

00:56:24
it was made for a lawnmower I had an excavator in there in the back of an f-150 oh I snapped the

00:56:29
whole trailer in half I jacked it up welded it together like struggle bus type stuff you know

00:56:36
but I made some money and uh was able to yeah I was able to buy a bigger truck bigger trailer

00:56:42
and and get more clients you know and so this year is really just continuing that arc you know

00:56:47
and really trying to hit some some better numbers you know right how was the the client base been at

00:56:53
have have you had regulars or um it's still you know it's still in that growing stage I mean I have

00:57:00
a I have a couple regulars um it's more I don't do maintenance I do new installs and light excavation

00:57:08
and stuff like that so it's more bigger projects so they're usually one-offs but they're large enough

00:57:13
where I don't need that many of them and my overhead is so low because it's not like I have

00:57:18
a payment on the excavator it's cash the truck is cash the trailer is cash there's I literally pay

00:57:24
a hundred bucks a month in insurance I have a million dollar policy and that's it you know so

00:57:28
I can't go bankrupt because I have there is no bank to rupt like there's no way that it can be taken

00:57:35
that's it so it can't fail therefore you know like even if I got one job a month for a day I could

00:57:42
pay my expenses because my apartment my apartment's 500 bucks a month you know what I mean okay yeah

00:57:47
perfect you're living within your means everything is yeah the formula for success right there

00:57:53
especially with a low overhead that's the thing though is that it's that's not as scalable

00:57:58
as it could be if I went and got a loan and got more equipment I might be able to get bigger jobs

00:58:04
and do it faster you know so it's a balance it's a balance there and I don't want to play it too

00:58:08
safe but that's what I'm playing with right now is that line of risk and reward right

00:58:13
mm-hmm and so that's that's the key for 2024 is to figure out where that is

00:58:18
to find that right line out because then also at the same time say you push it too far and then

00:58:23
you realize like I put too much on my plate and it's gonna break that's the thing there's a triangle

00:58:28
of leads capital and manpower and they all work together you know what I mean like you have the

00:58:35
lead now you need the now you get the capital but you need the manpower for the leads you know

00:58:40
or you have the capital but you need the leads because you have money and equipment but no leads

00:58:45
you know so there's it all works together and how you you can't scale just one you got to scale three

00:58:51
and so it's it's really it boils down to being cautious because a lot of new businesses fail for

00:58:57
the very reason you're talking about they take on too much mm-hmm they try to get too big too soon

00:59:02
yep so that's what it is man and uh yeah super exciting um here in a couple months I'll hit five

00:59:09
years sobriety um I gave up nicotine on uh Thanksgiving I was using the zen pouches and

00:59:16
yeah I've heard of those uh-huh yeah yeah kind of like velo you guys got velo across the pond there

00:59:22
you know and but it's dude it's a bad thing it was messing with my circulation and I was just like

00:59:26
you know what I'm quitting it and it ain't that hard it sucks but you can just stop using it

00:59:32
yeah because there's some people that people that that have used still using sometimes we tend to

00:59:38
substitute one thing for another absolutely absolutely so that's what you got to do there is a void

00:59:43
in your life but you got to fill it with healthy feeling right you know and so it's not chasing women

00:59:50
because you could do that your whole life and that might be nice but you're not making something

00:59:54
happen you know a lot of guys will get stuck in that where there's just you know that's their main

00:59:59
goal is let's get laid and that's cool but that ain't a good strategy for long-term success so I've

01:00:05
been uh recently I've just been solo dolo type thing where it's you know I have a laser focus on

01:00:13
success and a certain dollar amount I'm trying to hit I'm trying to hit six figures this year

01:00:17
which isn't a lot for a lot of people but for me it's huge because uh of the time that I wasted

01:00:23
in my life you know a lot of people did college for that four years I was a drug addict for that

01:00:28
four years I'm trying to level up on my own terms you know in my own way and so for me six figures

01:00:34
is huge and that's that's the goal this year is to break through that number and then I'll really

01:00:40
be happy with what's going on you know I think you're on the path right there you're fast tracking

01:00:45
in a lot of ways I mean even though you said you know that's uh some years wasted but man

01:00:51
turned it around and I really I respect that you you know you really highlighted and talked about

01:00:57
the fact of not being powerless and then taking matters into your own hand and and just you know

01:01:02
biting on your mouthpiece and grinding it out because sometimes you hear about these overnight

01:01:08
successes but I mean they're not overnight successes because they're not really talking too much

01:01:12
about everything that was going on behind the scenes when the cameras weren't rolling so a lot of

01:01:17
it's there's a lot of work that goes behind it how have have you been able to just keep on that

01:01:24
clear path when I set goals I never think about them again that's this is how where a lot of people

01:01:29
make the mistake yeah that you they set a goal and they think about it all the time they're like oh

01:01:32
gosh oh today I reminded myself that I don't have this thing that I want and gosh it'd be nice if

01:01:37
I could get it and how can I do it and they do that every day and it it doesn't work so what works

01:01:42
for me is uh you set that goal you forget about that goal you well and then you you focus on yourself

01:01:49
because right now if you have a goal you haven't got it yet and why is that it's because in my opinion

01:01:55
you are incapable of achieving that goal you are not the right version of yourself to achieve that

01:01:59
goal and if you were you would have already had it and the fact that you don't means that you are

01:02:04
incapable in your current state of being to achieve that goal and now you need to understand what

01:02:10
version of you would easily achieve that goal what version of you could crush that easily you know

01:02:16
and then you attribute those that identity to yourself so you basically it's it's an ego death

01:02:22
like a young Ian uh type of of a of an outlook and you you say look man um every part of me

01:02:30
and my psyche that doesn't agree with the goal that I have it will now be destroyed and you

01:02:36
got to destroy those parts of your personality and burn them and watch them disintegrate and

01:02:41
float away from you in in your mind you know and then you replace that with like the strength and

01:02:47
persistence and every attribute that you decide is part of the version of yourself that easily achieves

01:02:54
that and then that goal is achieved that's a hell of a way to put it that's some real good advice

01:03:00
right there that's a good outlook I really I I subscribe to that right there you know you hear

01:03:05
people they say you can't help somebody if they don't want to help themselves how do you feel about

01:03:10
that like say somebody who's struggling with addiction and do you think that it really comes

01:03:16
down to when they're fed up with their situation or um sometimes you can kind of push or nudge somebody

01:03:25
to look at themselves and and start making some changes and clean their act up a little bit I

01:03:31
struggle with that question more often than you might think you know I have a good buddy that I

01:03:37
came up with in that landscaping business that I was a foreman for my protege he we just went back

01:03:42
out after three years and he's a bad alcoholic and he's drunk as shit every day and then the

01:03:46
guy that I was talking about that thinks he's Enoch like those two guys in my life very important to

01:03:51
me and if I knew if I had a good way of impressing upon them the significance of sobriety and how

01:03:59
it's important to to change your life and you know what mistakes they're making if I could

01:04:05
articulate that in a way that they understood I would be elated I'd be so happy and it's also

01:04:10
obviously a large multi-billion dollar business probably in the US anyway rehabs you know so how

01:04:18
to do that effectively if you can figure that out you're the guy it may be a case by case basis to

01:04:24
some extent like you say they have to want it but how can you compel someone to want it is a great

01:04:31
question that I wish I had the answer to I don't I've tried tough love I've tried being kind of

01:04:38
inconsiderate I've tried you know hitting them with facts I've tried so many things as I'm sure

01:04:43
many people have and you know it feels like I'm beating my head against a wall and how do you

01:04:51
help these people help themselves I mean it's it's a tough thing that's one of life's persistence

01:04:57
questions that I have not unlocked yet because I couldn't tell you I tried my best and it seems

01:05:03
like it's up to them for you know for better or worse it seems like that's really what it comes

01:05:10
down to is when that individual is ready you can plant seeds I guess you know there's things that

01:05:15
you can do along the way but until they're ready to receive it enact it's it's really going to

01:05:22
continue the way you know they dictate their life to go so yeah yeah and what I what I think part of

01:05:28
it is is uh is people are scared of failure you know and that's one of the freeing things about

01:05:35
absolutely destroying your life and being you know broke and homeless and jobless and I have

01:05:41
nothing no net worth negative net worth is that you've already failed so hard that there's really no

01:05:48
way that you could do any worse and so now you can just go for it because you know there'll be

01:05:55
setbacks but regardless of where you land you're going to be better than you were and a lot of

01:06:00
people get scared of that and say gosh I'm not going to do anything extreme because I don't want

01:06:06
to fail I don't want to have people see me fail you know that's a Theodore Roosevelt quote and I

01:06:11
can't think of the whole thing but basically it's better to uh what is it it's some about it is better

01:06:17
to dare you know great and grandiose things even though checkered with failure than to like relinquish

01:06:24
yourself to the great twilight that is um you know the fear of failure is such a strong thing

01:06:31
and it'll keep people locked in a job they don't like or or what have you because they think that

01:06:36
they have to know for sure I know that that paycheck is going to be a thousand dollars and I know my

01:06:41
bills are six hundred or whatever you know but being able to dive off the deep end and say yeah

01:06:46
you know this looks like it'll work let's go for it let's do it that's where real growth and success

01:06:52
are made because you know you don't know man I might make no money I might lose money I might make

01:06:56
ten grand in a day like it's however wherever whenever but it's exciting and I would much

01:07:02
rather do that and so how do you impress that upon someone well that's the tough part you know it

01:07:08
doesn't matter if you came from money it doesn't matter if you came from nothing like what you

01:07:13
imagine you can do you can do and I know it sounds corny but that is legitimately accurate and uh

01:07:20
and so you just need to understand that and to wholeheartedly believe it and anything is possible

01:07:26
I mean you know kicking drugs and alcohol is just the first step then you get to the question of

01:07:32
why did you kick drugs and alcohol why didn't you just keep doing it well because I want this this

01:07:37
and this and okay good now become that person you know what I mean so you got to find that reason

01:07:44
and if you don't find it and you just see life as a you know a bleak landscape of of suffering

01:07:51
and horribleness and you get stuck in that you know oh everything's too expensive and I'll never

01:07:56
be able to afford a house and you know the economy sucks and blah blah blah none of those things are

01:08:00
necessarily untrue the economy does suck sometimes or whatever but you find the positives in it like

01:08:06
you didn't build the game but you're here so you got to play the game absolutely Peter that was a

01:08:12
good ride man you know I was looking forward to and I saw I'm always grateful I'm honored and I'm

01:08:18
respectful of anybody that comes on to share their peace because that takes a lot in itself and I

01:08:22
thank you for taking time out of your day if there's any you know final thoughts or something as we

01:08:28
wind this thing down that you'd like to share um hopefully that it can help someone um or either

01:08:34
directly or indirectly and you know I don't look at homeless people the same anymore as what I used

01:08:39
to um it's just you know that a string of bad decisions in a row that can lead you anywhere

01:08:47
you know just a few bad decisions from this point in time and I could be back there you know not many

01:08:53
decisions away from absolute destruction so I think social media in today's age kind of paints a

01:09:00
picture of life in a specific way and a lot of people just don't measure up to that and make

01:09:06
some feel bad about themselves so don't let that happen to you there's plenty of people

01:09:10
way worse off than you could ever dream and you just got to focus on what you want and if you don't

01:09:16
know what you want you got to figure it out or else you're not going anywhere you have to know

01:09:21
what you want focus on that and do it man so yeah I'm super grateful to be here with you Richard

01:09:27
awesome thank you for uh for inviting me on the podcast man super cool I'm gonna have to check out

01:09:33
the rest of your stuff because I like what you're doing here it's really it's good for um for all

01:09:39
people you know and everyone knows someone in addiction or or has had an addiction problem

01:09:44
it's very prevalent and to be able to understand that better and uh understand you know how that

01:09:50
all works is is super important so props for doing what you're doing that's super cool man all the best

01:09:56
yes sir Peter's playing the wind these days as he should the man's flipped a switch he's made

01:10:05
his mistakes destroyed relationships and almost destroyed himself completely while in the clutches

01:10:12
of addiction but he's bounced back he became accountable worked on himself and is enjoying

01:10:18
sobriety plus paved his own way he created a business he's providing a service and adding

01:10:25
value to the job market building his empire brick by brick he's made no excuses and I love the way

01:10:33
he put it getting sober is only the beginning the question becomes what do you plan on doing now that

01:10:40
you are sober what comes next he's answered that question in real time with where his time his energy

01:10:47
and his efforts are being directed scaling his business and leveling up times two and Peter

01:10:54
keep at it you've got all the tools to hit your mark you are another giant amongst us and to everybody

01:11:03
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