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[This is part 2 of an hour long conversation]
Picking up right where we left off on part 1 with Kyle. He shares advice on how someone struggling with the very vice that tied him up, an addiction to endless CELLPHONE USAGE, can reclaim both their time, and life back. His practical coaching tips can help take you from whatever level you're currently at, right back up to the top - that's to level 10 and beyond.
It was great to hear how Kyle made an active decision to get back in the drivers seat and take control of his life. After speaking with Kyle and listening to his story I've been inspired to be more conscious of how I spend or waste time with my smart phone. It can be a useful tool, but also the thorn in ones flesh slowly pricking away. To be mindful of ones actions, present and in tune with why we do the things we do, can be the start of us cleaning up bad habits to replace them with better ones.
One thing that stood out for me was Kyle's love for his nephews and nieces. The fact that he wasn't able to be the fun, cool, and playful uncle to them any longer because of his depression and the addiction gripping at him, was his reason to make changes in his life. After hearing this from him, I'm reminded of my nephew and how precious those relationships are. Thank you for your words Kyle, in my eyes you fit the bill, and are a GIANT AMONGST US.
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Now, here's a little story I got to tell.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is the second episode and the second half of our hour-long conversation
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with Kyle.
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So without further ado, let's get right back into it.
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Yeah, most of my clients are spending about six to ten hours a day on their phones.
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And the first thing I do with them as I sit down and say, you know, let's do the math
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on this.
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You're six hours a day, seven days a week, six times seven.
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You're talking a full-time job here, 42 hours a week, just sitting on your phone.
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Is there anything else you want to do with that 42 hours a week?
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And we don't have to reclaim all 42 hours a week right now, but let's just say, what
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if we cut that in half?
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What if we gave you 20 hours of your life back every single week?
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It's like three hours a day.
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What could you do with that time?
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And a lot of people, that's when the light switch.
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I was just going to say, when you break it down like that, I mean, it really, something's
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got to click and switch like, wow, I'm giving this much of my time away and I'm getting
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nothing out of it.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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That's the realization for almost everybody.
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I might even have people that use their phone like two and a half hours a day, which the
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worldwide average right now is about three hours and 15 minutes a day.
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And so people that are below average have come to me and say, I use my phone too much.
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And I say, how much are you using your phone?
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They say like two hours a day.
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And I'm like, that's not a lot, but if you want to ditch it, we can do that.
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We can get it down to 20 minutes, which is, that's about where I'm at right now between
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just texts and calls and scrolling through music on my phone while I'm, you know, have
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music playing in the background.
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That's just the screen time that it's on is about 20 minutes a day for me personally.
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And the rest of your work, everything else that you have to do, you just wait till you
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get home and you're doing it either on an iPad or a laptop.
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Yeah.
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So my work with clients, helping them get off their phones, ironically enough is over
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Zoom, but that allows me to work with people everywhere in the world.
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I've had clients in Mumbai and Seattle and New York all at the same time.
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So it's really cool that I can be able to use technology as a tool to help people get
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off technology as ironic as that is.
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Are you getting all age groups or is there like a specific range that usually is coming
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to you for assistance?
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Yeah.
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The normal, my normal client is usually under 40.
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And I have a theory about that.
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And it's, I think, I think that the phone kind of grew up with us, you know, when it
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was 2004, 2005, when the iPhone came out.
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It's been almost 20 years.
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And so if you think back, if you're 35, you were 15, you know, when the iPhone came out.
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And as your brain was developing, its brain was developing.
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It got a faster processor every year.
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It got new tech every year, you know, the facial recognition scanners, the fingerprint
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scanners.
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It grew up as we did.
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Facebook, when it started, you know, was just for college kids to keep in touch after
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college.
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That was the whole point.
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And now it's the biggest social media network in the world that, you know, owns Instagram
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and all that kind of thing.
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You know, it grew up while we grew up.
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And so nobody was there to teach us how to use it because our parents didn't really care
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about Facebook for a long time, you know, so they didn't see what it could become and
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how addicting it could become and how much it could take over our lives.
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So I think that's why most of my clients are in that 20 to 40 range.
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Because we just, nobody told us how to use it.
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It's not even an uncommon thing to see kids that are in grade school with smartphones
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now and they know how to work it probably better than me.
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Yeah.
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Oh, they know how to work it better than I do.
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I've been, I've only been out of the smartphone games for a year now.
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Yeah.
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And like my nieces and nephews will get, grab their parents phones and go to YouTube and
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watch Blippi.
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And I'm like, you're six.
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How do you know this?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Before, I remember it was, it was some, some of the parents that would just sit their
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kids in front of the TV screen.
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Here you go.
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You watch cartoons.
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You just give them a, it was a PSP or a little Game Boy or something.
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Then it turned to, now they just give them the phone.
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Here you go.
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Have at it.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Here's a, here's a portal to all the information in the world.
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Go have fun.
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That scares me personally to give a kid, to give a kid a box full of anything they want
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at the touch of a button instantly.
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There's a lot of, I think, social, there's a lot of social things I think that are pop
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up in the next 10, 15 years.
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And we're going to realize, hey, that was probably not the smartest thing to do, but
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it's done now.
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Let's figure out how to fix it.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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They have, and then you also have kids that are creating TikTok accounts, Instagram accounts,
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YouTube channels.
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I mean, it's out of control.
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Then you have your privacy.
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There's a lot of other things that are compromised with that, along with just the type of information
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that you could be filling your mind with, especially when you're a kid and you're still
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at that impressionable stage, your mind is still developing.
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It's a scary thing.
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Yeah.
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But there's not really a right answer right now.
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Because you've got, in middle schools, I've seen this a lot, where if you don't have an
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Instagram and you're 12 or 13, kids will say that, oh, you just don't exist.
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You don't exist in the real world unless you have a presence in the digital world.
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And that's just crazy to me, that that's where the bullying has gone is if you're not one
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of us, then you literally just don't exist.
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So any parents who are like, well, I don't want to give my phone a magical black box
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are kind of setting their kids up to be bullied.
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But it's the right move, but it's, what do you do?
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It's like a double-edged sword.
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Yeah.
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It's a catch-22.
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Yeah.
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Catch it if you don't.
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Exactly.
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And also, even just getting by now, like on a, say, for some social activities, like,
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say, for instance, I was telling you that we had went last year to visit family in California.
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And just simple things is, before there was a time when just the spur of the moment, if
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you wanted to do something, you can go into a cafe or say, in this case, my wife and I,
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we were at the lake and there was those paddle boats.
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And so we've seen that there was a lot of paddle boats available.
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And we went in there and said, can we rent a paddle boat?
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We see it's about $12 for an hour.
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Can we?
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Yeah, you have to download the app.
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The app.
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Like there's a lot of paddle boats that are open.
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Nobody's using it.
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Can't we have the money?
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Can we just, no, you have to download the app.
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Here's the app.
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You download it and then this is a catch list, transaction list.
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I don't know what it was.
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I couldn't make sense of it.
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And he said, okay, well, I guess there goes that.
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But even simple things like that, now everything is you need to have a smartphone.
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You have to download the app to go through with this transaction or a lot of things are
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going in that direction.
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Yeah.
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I know like a lot of banking is mostly just done online now.
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Like if you go into a bank and ask for cash, you know, they're like, what do you need cash
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for?
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Just use a Venmo.
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What is that?
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Yeah.
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And then.
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Right.
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You just wire it.
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You want public transport, you know, a thing that should be available to everyone.
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I've seen some public transport that you have to have the app.
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That's the only way you can pay is through the app or you can go to a central terminal
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and post pay for the rides you've been on and pre pay for all the other rides you want
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to do.
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But that's just, it doesn't really work.
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So it's become so integral in society.
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Yeah.
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You know, you go to a karaoke, you know, you go to a bar, you want to do some karaoke.
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That's what I was going to ask you.
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That's what I was going to ask you.
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You've got to have the app.
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Oh, do you?
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They're asking you for an app to do karaoke.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You've got it to put your name on the list to go you up and sing your song.
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You got to have the app.
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It's like you're getting slowly outcasted if you're not stained within that grid.
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They're making it very difficult.
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That's what I was going to ask since you stopped using a smartphone or just carrying a smartphone
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with you in that sense, the way you were before.
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Has it taken convenience you in any way or you seem to be getting by just fine.
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You have your alternatives to it and making it work for you.
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Yeah.
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It's absolutely an inconvenience.
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I actually keep my old smartphone usually in my car and if I need a smartphone for
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something I'll go out, I'll do a mobile hotspot from my flip phone to my old phone to get
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Wi-Fi to download the app so I can do whatever.
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Because there are some things that I need to do that you have to have the app for.
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In that sense, I know a couple people who don't own smartphones at all and I'm not entirely
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sure how they get by 100% at the time.
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Because the amount of times I've gone into a city office to pay a bill and they're like,
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oh no, yeah, we don't accept cash here.
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You're going to have to go online and just pay online.
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I say, okay, well, I don't have a smartphone.
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I can't do that.
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They say, okay, well, your bills do.
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So figure it out.
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I say, okay, well, I guess I'll go get my old phone so I can pay this.
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Stuff like that has been surprising to me.
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The amount of places that don't accept cash, don't even have a credit card taker in the
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store, just all digital.
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And it seems that that's another thing that's going to be tough in the future because it
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seems like that's the direction where it's going more and more.
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So people that are seeing, because it also seems like this is more of a topic that people
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are recognizing the problem with their phone usage.
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They're just spending too much time on the phone and also the issues that young children
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are having with depression, with self-esteem issues, being bullied, not just at school,
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but then online also so they can't get away from it.
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There was a time when I was in school and the only time you were being bullied or if
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you had issues, it was while you were at school, I couldn't imagine going home and then you
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look on your feed and then there's people posting certain things of use or you're getting
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it in two ways.
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And so that's affecting society in a lot of different ways.
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There's good usage.
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It could be a tool, but a lot of people have found themselves addicted to it because it
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is highly addictive.
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And even the creators, I was reading this article and it was talking about just some
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of the software creators, they tailored it pretty much after slot machines and to give
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you that dopamine and to give you that addiction to where it's giving you the same effect
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as if you were at a casino and you're trying to hit the jackpot.
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Yep, that's exactly correct.
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They engineered it.
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So every time you swipe up, it feels like you're pulling the lever on the side of the
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slot machine.
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That and Instagram is one of those things that I never really got on board with, but
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it creates a lot of mental health issues in teenagers, specifically because their brains
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are not developed enough and they have the need to compare themselves to everybody at
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that age.
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If you're a teenager, you're always thinking about what other people think about you.
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So if you hop on Instagram and you see that so and so's dad is taking them all around
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the world on a private jet and they're going to Maui, they're going to the Caribbean, they're
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going to the Mediterranean, all these cool places, well, that doesn't make you feel very
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good as a teenager.
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You're wondering, well, why are they so lucky?
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Why do they get to do that?
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Apparently, I'm not good enough.
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And that's how the thought process goes a lot of the time is when you see other people
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doing things that are abnormally awesome, your brain goes, well, if I can't do that,
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then I guess I'm not good enough.
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And that's where the depression in teenagers has come from.
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The spike, I personally believe that it's mostly social media.
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They're competing and the thing about it is most people when they're posting, it's only
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the highlight reels.
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So you're getting just the best of what they're doing.
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And yeah, a lot of times it's not really based on everyday reality.
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It's not reality based.
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Everybody is just trying to either outpost, you're keeping up with the Joneses and that
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can't be good for somebody's mental health.
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What are some of the problems when people are coming to you?
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Are they dealing with depression?
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Are they like, is there specific things that you're seeing with most of the people that
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are coming to you and asking for assistance and asking to be coached and coming to you
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for help?
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Yeah, the biggest thing I see is somewhere between low self-esteem and early depression
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where there's this sense that I've lost control and I am not keeping up with the Joneses on
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social media.
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That's kind of the biggest one is, well, I'm not good enough because I can't keep up with
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Khloe Kardashian and all the billions of dollars she makes.
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So I'm her same age.
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So because I'm her same age, I must be worthless because I don't have the billions of dollars
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that she has.
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That kind of thinking is a lot of what I deal with.
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Yeah.
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I'm doing something wrong.
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I'm doing something because other people are doing better than me.
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That's the biggest one I see.
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I was going to ask you, and what are things, I know for you, you said it was pretty much
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replacing those bad habits with better habits, healthy habits.
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Are there certain key points that you focus on or, I mean, probably every individual is
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different and their needs are going to be different.
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So you kind of tailor it depending on what they're looking for as far as the help that
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they need.
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And, or are there certain things that you focus in on when it comes to helping them
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pull away from the phone and maybe take some of their life back?
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Yeah.
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So in my program, we start kind of with the phone and just very basic things to start
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training your brain that it can be okay to live without your phone.
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Like the first thing, day one of the program, the only thing I ask you to do is leave your
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phone outside the bathroom when you go in there to do your business.
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And that's the starting point.
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And then it's funny.
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Everybody laughs when I tell them that.
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They're like, you want me to just not take my phone in the bathroom?
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That's it.
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And I'm like, yep.
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That's it.
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So if your phone sits on the counter outside the bathroom, you can hop back on it when
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you're done.
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So it starts with simple things like that.
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Baby steps.
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And then a couple weeks in is where we start digging into kind of the identity behind why
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they came to me.
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I'll ask them, you know, hey, you know, like what, what do you think about yourself when
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you're alone?
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Where's, where's your mindset?
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When I've got a little questionnaire that kind of helps narrow down why they really
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came to me.
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Mostly the most of the time the phone is just a coping mechanism for something else.
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And so we kind of treat the coping mechanism and then we kind of have to treat the something
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else, but it takes a little bit of time to build rapport with people and get to that
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point where you can have an intimate conversation about their personal lives.
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So we treat the phone addiction part over here and then we go a little bit further down
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the road.
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And most of the time by that point in time, we've done enough things.
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We've replaced the phone enough with other things that their main issue is not nearly
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as big of an issue, whether that be the low self-esteem.
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I encourage everybody during weeks two and three and four to start reaching out to people
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and going out to lunch with friends you haven't seen in a while, doing things in person with
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people.
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And that normally will, will start to fix the like the low self-esteem issues by itself.
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Normally when we get to the self-esteem part of the program, it's like, hey, yeah, I was
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feeling this way.
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I didn't want to come out and tell you when I started the program, but since I started
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the program, I've been feeling a lot better.
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And when they do get together with each other to leave the phones at home or at least in
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the car.
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Yep, exactly.
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Yep.
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You don't need it while you're chit-chatting over dinner with your, with your best friend.
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It's, it's a cool thing to, to watch people.
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You seem to have a holistic approach to it.
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It's not just, this is what we're going to do, replace your hat, but it's also getting
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to the source of it like what, what, let's go a little deeper than that.
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Maybe some people, they don't know how to spend quality time alone with themselves and
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they're not in tune with themselves.
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They're completely out of touch.
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Yeah, you're exactly right.
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It's, it is very much.
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And we just feel that, that empty space with something, the quickest thing we can do is
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pick up the phone.
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Okay.
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Let me see what they're doing.
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They're living life through somebody else's eyes, but you're, you're in the meantime,
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yours is just passing right by and we wasted, I'm guilty myself.
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I've wasted, not to say I'm, I'm off of that smart device, but I know I, I really do try
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to make an effort to limit my screen time and to use it for something like how you said
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in the beginning where, what I'm working on, there's a lot of useful things you can get
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out of it.
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There's a lot of information you can educate yourself with if you're trying to better a
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habit if you want to learn a new, whatever it is, you learn a new skill, the craft, but
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then again, there's also the temptation of just endless scrolling.
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And that's hard to get away from.
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Yeah.
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It's, it's crazy how fast we've, as a society, we've become so reliant on smartphones and
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technology.
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If it all went away tomorrow, I think we'd break a little bit.
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There'd be a lot of things that just didn't work anymore.
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Like, like I was saying, I really liked the holistic approach and I think that's, that's
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the better way to, to deal with these type of issues and especially the clients that
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come to you seeking advice and help.
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Yeah.
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They're, they're a whole person.
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And so I, I treat them like they're a human being, not like they're some random person
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I met over the internet.
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And we, we talk about all the aspects of health.
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Genuine interactions.
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Yep.
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We talk about emotional, physical, spiritual, mental.
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Now I was, I was doing a little, I was doing a follow-up and I checked out your website
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and now is it a 15 day detox?
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Does it go further than that?
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If they're willing to, or is like, how does that work out as far as the programs that
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you offer or the help that you offer?
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Yeah.
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I appreciate, I appreciate you checking out my website.
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So I've got two main programs.
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One of them is my 15 day digital detox program.
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That one is structured.
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There's a video that comes to your inbox every morning for 15 days, usually between 10 and
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12 minutes.
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And then on Monday, Wednesday and Friday for two weeks, plus an extra Monday at the end,
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we get together as a group of usually me and eight to 10 clients.
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And we're all there doing the same thing.
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We're all working towards the same goal.
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And that is day 14 is a no phone for 24 hour day.
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So that's the collective goal of the group is on day fit.
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On day 14, we're not going to use our phones at all.
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And then day 15, we come back and we talk about it.
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What went well, what was hard, what are you going to implement into the rest of your life
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and how can we move forward?
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And that's the point where if they want to work one-on-one with me in my 90 day program,
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which is 12 weeks with me, one hour sessions, that's where we can kind of facilitate that
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interaction going forward.
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How is that 12 weeks?
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Is that once a week or how does that break down for the 90 day program?
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Yep.
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That one's once a week and that one gets a lot more into the holistic healing a whole
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person rather than the 15 day digital detox is very much focused on how to get rid of
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the phone and less focused on all the other things that they're in there.
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They're just not quite as strong as they are in the 90 day program.
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That's simply because I just don't have enough time to talk to each individual and figure
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out what each individual needs for the rest of their selves to become whole.
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And the name of the website again, so if anybody wants to look into more information as to
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what you're offering, what you're doing over there?
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Yeah.
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It's level 10 life coach.
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Just level all spelled out 10 the number 10 and then life coach.
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Yeah.
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That's probably the best way to get into contact with me.
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All my information is on the website.
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Taking them from zero to 10.
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Yep.
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Well, wherever you're at the 10 most people aren't quite at zero.
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But the goal is to get you the next level up from where you're at currently.
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If you're sitting at a five in life right now, we'll get you to a six or a seven and
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we'll go from there.
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That's good.
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That's promising.
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That's promising.
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Yeah.
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Now, can I ask you, have you seen a lot of success with people that are coming to you
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and the after effects of them going through your program?
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Yeah.
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I keep in fairly close contact with most of my clients.
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I send out an email every few months just checking in.
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Hey, how are you doing?
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Follow-ups.
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And I get responses back.
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Yeah, quite a bit that are just, hey, your program literally changed my life.
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It's been three months since I stopped working with you.
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And when I stopped working with you, I was at two hours on my phone.
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Now I'm down to an hour and 10 minutes a day.
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So it's really cool to see people continue to work after they've worked with me.
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And they've got this fire and passion that I kind of hope that I instill in everybody
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that I work with.
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That cell phones are incredible, smartphones are incredible.
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They're incredible tools, but they can also be incredible weaknesses.
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And more than ever, I mean, it is very common.
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And you see it everywhere.
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The proof is in the pudding.
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You walk wherever you go.
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You're going to the grocery store.
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You're driving in the car.
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There's people driving while they're looking at their phone.
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It is everywhere.
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Yep.
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I watched a lady put on makeup using her phone as a mirror while she was driving to work
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one day and I was like, wow, I'm more impressed than scared right now that you're still on
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the road.
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I'm terrified, but wow, if you can drive with your knee, I'm assuming, hold your phone
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in one hand for the mirror and put your lipstick on.
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That's some skills right there.
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We need to get her a circus.
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Right?
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Yeah, it seems to be something that more than some are dealing with and whether they admitted
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or not, like I was saying, even me, I mean, I really try to put myself in check and monitor
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what I'm doing because it's so easy when you're, I could be looking at something and
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it could be for educational purposes, but then I click on a video and of course you
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get the recommended and it doesn't stop and before you know it, it's like an hour pass.
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What did I get out of it?
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My God.
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Let me go run.
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Let me do a little bit of body weight exercises or something just to get my mind right, but
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now you mentioned a few things about habit changes and things like that.
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Is there anything else you'd like to leave people listening with as far as how they can
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limit their screen usage or if they see that this is an issue with them, steps they can
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take to get that in order?
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Yeah, I've definitely got so many tools for people.
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Honestly, the simplest one is that one that I recommend to everybody on day one that's
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don't take your phone into the bathroom.
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That's a really good place to start.
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Amen.
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After that, I would recommend looking a little bit into mindfulness and mindfulness for anybody
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who may not know is thinking about why you're doing what you're doing, just being aware
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of, okay, I am going on a walk because I need that for my body right now or I'm scrolling
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on my phone because that's what I need to do to cope with whatever is happening in
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my life.
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A good way to learn mindfulness is to go for a walk without your phone, leave your phone
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home, just five, 10 minute walk and just see how many things you can notice with your senses.
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Smells is the bakery around the corner making bread.
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Is it raining?
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Is it sunny outside?
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Is it too hot?
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Is it too cold?
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How does your body feel?
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Are you breathing heavy?
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Are you walking quickly?
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Are you walking slowly?
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And just kind of let your senses take over for a minute while you're out on this walk,
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just literally five, 10 minutes.
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And that's a good way to train your brain to think about what it's experiencing.
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Once you have the what am I experiencing part down, you can kind of start to peel back the
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curtain of, okay, why am I experiencing this?
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And honestly, that's one of the biggest tools that I use on a day to day basis with people
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is mindfulness and thinking about why we're doing what we're doing.
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Right.
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Getting back to being present in the moment, whatever it is you're doing, we can really,
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I know as far as just speaking from my own personal experience and I'm sure a lot of
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people can agree, whatever you can be eating, but you're thinking about what you have to
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do later in the day, what happened the day before.
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It's like you're not even enjoying the meal because your mind is going back to so many
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different things and just be in the moment, enjoy the food, chew the food.
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And if you're sitting across from somebody, enjoy that company with them.
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Yeah.
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There's so many times I go walk into a restaurant and there's a group of people sitting across
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from each other, five or six of them, they're all on their phones, all silent in a public
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place, just scrolling.
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And I'm like, you guys are kind of missing the point of going out to dinner together
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as friends, right?
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Like, you're supposed to be connecting socially.
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Right.
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So, yeah.
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That was one thing I did like my mom.
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I remember she would make it a point when we would get together, my brother's the family
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and she'd always tell everybody, put your phone away when we have dinner, at least while
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we have dinner.
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That's huge thing for, at the dinner table when I was growing up, it was no technology,
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no Game Boys, no iPods, no laptops, no nothing.
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It was just dinner.
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And I'm very, very grateful my parents did that because it taught me a lot about how
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to interact with people in a positive way.
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Yeah.
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Those little things can go a long way.
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And this was awesome.
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I was very, very excited to hear your take on all this stuff.
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And it was great feedback, great insight.
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And one more time, as far as people reaching out to you or getting in touch with you to
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see what you're doing or the programs that you offer, that was level10coaching.com.
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Level10lifecoach.com.
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This is where they can get in touch with you.
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You offer a 15-day digital detox, and then if they want to continue with your program,
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they can opt into a 90-day program.
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Yep.
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And that 90-day program is a one-on-one.
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And we dig...
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One-on-one, okay.
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Quite further into detail about you, what's going on with your life, how are your kids,
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that kind of thing.
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The detox program is more of a group coaching setting, and we don't get nearly as personal
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in that, but both of the programs I've had awesome successes with, and would love to
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share them with everybody.
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Oh, perfect.
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Perfect.
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Thank you so much for your time, Kyle.
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Is there anything else you'd like to add before we wrap this thing up?
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Yeah.
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One of the biggest things I live by that I like to leave with everybody that I encounter
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is my take on the Golden Rule.
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We all know the Golden Rule, yeah.
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And that is treat others how you want to be treated.
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My take on that is treat yourself how you want to be treated.
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Yeah, that's something that you want.
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Thank you so much, Kyle.
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You're very welcome.
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Glad to be here.
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As we wrap up the second episode, I'd like to thank both Mindy and Kyle for wanting to
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share their stories.
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They've shared parts of their lives that are sensitive and can leave one vulnerable.
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And for that, I appreciate their openness and courage.
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Thank you.
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To get in contact with Kyle, you can find him at level10lifecoach.com.
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That's level10lifecoach.com.
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Kyle is a holistic life and health coach who offers a 15-day digital detox program that
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can help jumpstart a transformation to your digital habits and better manage your time
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and life.
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To do better and be better, some have said that you've got to find your why, your reason.
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One thing that stood out for me was Kyle's love for his nephews and his nieces.
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The fact that he wasn't able to be the fun, the cool and playful uncle that he once was
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because of the depression and addiction that he was dealing with.
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That was his why.
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That was his reason to want to make some changes.
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And having a nephew who I love dearly, but being across waters plus miles and countries
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apart, I haven't been able to see him much or to be around him these last few years.
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I'm reminded of how precious those relationships really are.
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Thank you.
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In my eyes, you are a giant amongst us.
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Keep being you.
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And until next time, and very soon, peace.